AMD Ryzen Gen3 Pricing

Now the pricing or at least the MSRP type pricing information is published for the AMD Ryzen Gen3 CPUs.

The Ryzen 9 3900x 12 core 24 thread 3.8Ghz Base – 4.6Ghz Boost clock CPU is slated for $499

The Ryzen 7 3800x 8 core 16 thread 3.7Ghz base to 4.5Ghz Boost clock CPU is slated for $399

The Ryzen 7 3700x 8 core 16 thread 3.6Ghz base to 4.4Ghz boost clock CPU is $329

I know these processors shake the tree and surpass Intel’s offerings which I am very pleasantly excited about. Competition brings down the price and increases the capabilities of the products for consumers. We all win. I am a bit disappointed at the MSRP levels. The MSRP type prices fall approximately into the same values as Intel’s pricing for the competing products. Kudos to AMD for becoming the Victor in the speed segment of consumer level processors. If the retail prices actually are significantly lower for retail than I anticipate, AMD has just hit the ball OUT of the park. This is certainly a home run for them in any case.

These prices are MSRP type values and the actual pricing could be 20% lower or even less on most of the sites such as newegg and amazon. July 7, 2019 is the release date for the processors to go on sale.

I have been firmly entrenched in the Intel CPU camp for nearly 20 years. AMD has not measured up until Ryzen was released. I built an AMD Ryzen 2 2700 CPU based system in April of 2019 to see for myself how well the Ryzen 2 CPUs stack up to Intel’s offerings. I was very happy with the results of that endeavor. Now AMD is in the lead! Now if AMD can just topple NVIDIA off of THEIR high horse in the Video card market space ; )

So long to an old supplier

Corsair is cutting corners

I have been building computer systems professionally since 1990. Before that it was merely a hobby. Through the years I came to trust certain vendors for parts more so than others. EVGA for their video cards, Antec Cases, Corsair RAM and Power supplies, Kingston RAM…. others come to mind but I am digressing. The point of this post is to explain what occurred that convinced me that continuing business with Corsair after 15 years and 1000s of reliable parts purchases is not in my best interest.

Corsair has begun to build and manufacture their own line of pre-built computers. This is a serious point of contention for their clients that purchase parts to build computers with professionally. They can of course exceed the buying power of any modest level builder or team of builders. I am not pleased about this but it was not quite enough to force my hand. You do not make money from your clients business to put further your own business when it is convenient for you to do so, by becoming their direct competitor. Very very bush league.

The final straw

The issue that ended it for me was a rather silly one. I have a power supply I purchased and use for one of my own personal computers, from Corsair. It is a very expensive high end AX860 power supply with a 10 year warranty covering parts and labor. I applied for an RMA for one of the cables for the unit. Five years of use had made the cable inflexible and brittle. I intended to transplant the power supply from the dated computer into a new build. I took a photo of the cable attaching it to the RMA request. I was informed that Corsair does not warranty items for usual wear and tear of standard use. Think about this for a moment. If they do not warranty any items for usual wear and tear of standard use, just what exactly do they warranty? If I put the item on a shelf in a storage locker for 7 years and then use it and it fails perhaps? After a time a higher level member of Corsair contacted me about the cable and offered to replace it free. I refused the offer. I do not want to be given special favor for having been a customer for years on a builder level. I want Corsair to reconsider their policy on warranty. The current one leaves considerable room for improvement.

Conclusion

If Corsair can not replace $5 worth of cables after five years of use, what if I have a client’s system that the PSU entirely fails on, what then? This totally undermines the validity of any warranty corsair might offer in my view. It also puts any future warranty or policies they MIGHT try to offer to counter the negatives of the current policies and procedures. Luckily I have only needed to RMA about 5 items to Corsair in 15 years and tens of thousands of parts ordered. Now they have lost my brand loyalty. I buy power supplies from EVGA and RAM from G.Skill instead. I trust those companies to make good on their warranties when asked to do so. I sincerely hope that your experiences with Corsair are better than my results were in this instance.

The Photo FINISH


Boot time variance between two high-end rigs

I have two computers that I use for my primary desktops. One I built in July of 2018. The other I built in April of 2019.

System 1

Intel i7 8700K 4.3Ghz CPU
ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Motherboard
Corsair Carbide 600Q inverse Case
Corsair H115i Pro CPU Cooler
Corsair HX750i Power Supply
G.Skill Ripjaws V DD4 32G RAM
Samsung 960 Pro 512G NVMe drive
Western Digital 2TB Black Hard drive
EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3 GPU
NZXT internal USB USB Hub
Netgear A7000 wireless External wireless adapter

System 2

AMD Ryzen 2 2700 4.1Ghz CPU
ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F Motherboard
Corsair Carbide 100R Case
AMD Wraith Prism CPU Cooler
EVGA 500W Power Supply
EVGA DDR4 2400 16G RAM
Crucial P1 1TB NVMe drive
ASUS GTX 1060 3G GPU
Netgear A7000 wireless External wireless adapter

Results

Systems were both rebooted 10 times with Windows 10 Pro with the latest updates installed. The times were averaged.

System 1 reboots in 23.47 seconds

System 2 reboots in 36.59 seconds

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Why faxes are utterly obsolete

Faxes are obsolete for a variety of reasons. The time it takes to send a fax, the various results of sending a fax and so forth all contribute.

I will focus on the legal perspective of why email obsoletes fax.

When you send an email to another person with “Return receipt requested” upon sending that email, then IF the recipient reads that email, the sender will receive a receipt confirmation that the recipient has opened that email. This is valid to use in a court of law in the United States to prove that the intended recipient did get the email and all of it’s attachments, at exactly the time the email was opened. This prevents the legal argument of “I never received…”

Fax copy on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. The only thing a sender of a fax can prove, in court, or otherwise, is that they sent the fax at a given time. It is impossible to prove that the intended recipient of the fax in question actually received the fax at all. The fax may have been sent to the wrong number. The fax machine on the recipient end may have been out of paper. The fax may have been garbled in transmission. The list goes on.

This does not take into account the cost of the fax machines, special papers, toner cartridges, the additional time it takes to send or receive a fax and so forth.

If someone does not have email in this day and age, do you want to conduct important business with them?

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