Now the pricing or at least the MSRP type pricing information is published for the AMD Ryzen Gen3 CPUs.
The Ryzen 9 3900x 12 core 24 thread 3.8Ghz Base – 4.6Ghz Boost clock CPU is slated for $499
The Ryzen 7 3800x 8 core 16 thread 3.7Ghz base to 4.5Ghz Boost clock CPU is slated for $399
The Ryzen 7 3700x 8 core 16 thread 3.6Ghz base to 4.4Ghz boost clock CPU is $329
I know these processors shake the tree and surpass Intel’s offerings which I am very pleasantly excited about. Competition brings down the price and increases the capabilities of the products for consumers. We all win. I am a bit disappointed at the MSRP levels. The MSRP type prices fall approximately into the same values as Intel’s pricing for the competing products. Kudos to AMD for becoming the Victor in the speed segment of consumer level processors. If the retail prices actually are significantly lower for retail than I anticipate, AMD has just hit the ball OUT of the park. This is certainly a home run for them in any case.
These prices are MSRP type values and the actual pricing could be 20% lower or even less on most of the sites such as newegg and amazon. July 7, 2019 is the release date for the processors to go on sale.
I have been firmly entrenched in the Intel CPU camp for nearly 20 years. AMD has not measured up until Ryzen was released. I built an AMD Ryzen 2 2700 CPU based system in April of 2019 to see for myself how well the Ryzen 2 CPUs stack up to Intel’s offerings. I was very happy with the results of that endeavor. Now AMD is in the lead! Now if AMD can just topple NVIDIA off of THEIR high horse in the Video card market space ; )
The specs are up, the release date is set at 7/7/2019. The prices are not announced yet.
Corsair is cutting corners
I have been building computer systems professionally since 1990. Before that it was merely a hobby. Through the years I came to trust certain vendors for parts more so than others. EVGA for their video cards, Antec Cases, Corsair RAM and Power supplies, Kingston RAM…. others come to mind but I am digressing. The point of this post is to explain what occurred that convinced me that continuing business with Corsair after 15 years and 1000s of reliable parts purchases is not in my best interest.
Corsair has begun to build and manufacture their own line of pre-built computers. This is a serious point of contention for their clients that purchase parts to build computers with professionally. They can of course exceed the buying power of any modest level builder or team of builders. I am not pleased about this but it was not quite enough to force my hand. You do not make money from your clients business to put further your own business when it is convenient for you to do so, by becoming their direct competitor. Very very bush league.
The final straw
The issue that ended it for me was a rather silly one. I have a power supply I purchased and use for one of my own personal computers, from Corsair. It is a very expensive high end AX860 power supply with a 10 year warranty covering parts and labor. I applied for an RMA for one of the cables for the unit. Five years of use had made the cable inflexible and brittle. I intended to transplant the power supply from the dated computer into a new build. I took a photo of the cable attaching it to the RMA request. I was informed that Corsair does not warranty items for usual wear and tear of standard use. Think about this for a moment. If they do not warranty any items for usual wear and tear of standard use, just what exactly do they warranty? If I put the item on a shelf in a storage locker for 7 years and then use it and it fails perhaps? After a time a higher level member of Corsair contacted me about the cable and offered to replace it free. I refused the offer. I do not want to be given special favor for having been a customer for years on a builder level. I want Corsair to reconsider their policy on warranty. The current one leaves considerable room for improvement.
If Corsair can not replace $5 worth of cables after five years of use, what if I have a client’s system that the PSU entirely fails on, what then? This totally undermines the validity of any warranty corsair might offer in my view. It also puts any future warranty or policies they MIGHT try to offer to counter the negatives of the current policies and procedures. Luckily I have only needed to RMA about 5 items to Corsair in 15 years and tens of thousands of parts ordered. Now they have lost my brand loyalty. I buy power supplies from EVGA and RAM from G.Skill instead. I trust those companies to make good on their warranties when asked to do so. I sincerely hope that your experiences with Corsair are better than my results were in this instance.
Boot time variance between two high-end rigs
I have two computers that I use for my primary desktops. One I built in July of 2018. The other I built in April of 2019.
Intel i7 8700K 4.3Ghz CPU
ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Motherboard
Corsair Carbide 600Q inverse Case
Corsair H115i Pro CPU Cooler
Corsair HX750i Power Supply
G.Skill Ripjaws V DD4 32G RAM
Samsung 960 Pro 512G NVMe drive
Western Digital 2TB Black Hard drive
EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3 GPU
NZXT internal USB USB Hub
Netgear A7000 wireless External wireless adapter
AMD Ryzen 2 2700 4.1Ghz CPU
ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F Motherboard
Corsair Carbide 100R Case
AMD Wraith Prism CPU Cooler
EVGA 500W Power Supply
EVGA DDR4 2400 16G RAM
Crucial P1 1TB NVMe drive
ASUS GTX 1060 3G GPU
Netgear A7000 wireless External wireless adapter
Systems were both rebooted 10 times with Windows 10 Pro with the latest updates installed. The times were averaged.
System 1 reboots in 23.47 seconds
System 2 reboots in 36.59 seconds
You may have read about the Intel SSD 310 8M bug. Finally there is a fix.
Have you experienced the Intel 510 SSD bug?
If you power down your system for more than 35 hours, then get boot sector errors when starting, you too are being impacted.
More to come when conclusive testing provides a solid result and hopefully a solution as well.
I have been a proponent of Asus products 13 years. In 1998 I won an Asus notebook at an Intel Channel Conference as a door prize. It still works today. After building systems for 13 years using Asus motherboards, I have had 2 motherboards that were defective.
The first defective Asus motherboard was replaced in four business days by Asus.
Three months ago I created an RMA for the 2nd defective motherboard. A week after the RMA was created I was sent the necessary forms to obtain a replacement part. Then I filled out the forms and sent those back to Asus. Four weeks ago I received a replacement motherboard.
The replacement unit was Dead on Arrival. It took 3 weeks of contacting Asus to get a shipping label from Asus to ship the defective repaired motherboard back to Asus. When Asus received the defective replacement motherboard from me, they CLOSED the original RMA. Apparently they believe in the one part per RMA process. That would be wonderful if they never shipped a defective part. For that matter if they never shipped a defective part, I would never have to create an RMA.
Today I had to have a new RMA created for the defective motherboard, AGAIN. Now I will need to fill out all of the Asus forms again and wait for a repaired replacement motherboard, again.
That will be the last time an Asus part goes into a system I build. I can not afford to wait for weeks or months for an RMA order to be fulfilled for my clients. Intel motherboards are not as feature complete as Asus motherboards. Intel ships RMA replacements over night. The cost difference is not a factor. I will miss the features that Asus incorporates into their motherboards. I will not miss the new RMA process.
I have been calling ASUS Motherboard support. All support representatives have been busy for over three hours today. Something is not going well for them. They make some of the best Motherboards money can buy. Unfortunate they are unable to manage their support group more effectively. This is not the first time I have had issues. Two weeks ago they were having the same problem.
If you find you are loosing mixer settings, when you have Intel HD Audio, pulseaudio and ALSA all installed, try removing the pulseaudio package. This often fixes the issue.
ASUS recently released a new BIOS update (1303) for the P7H55M-Pro motherboard. The new BIOS addresses memory errors with the 0802 BIOS.
Memory tests revealed no issues but on rare occasions I was experiencing a couple of memory related errors. IRQ_NOT_Less_THAN_OR_EQUAL and PFN List corrupt errors indicate your BIOS and memory are not communicating correctly. This version of the BIOS may resolve those errors for you. These errors were exhibited under Microsoft Windows 7 Pro 64 bit edition and did not exhibit under Fedora 13 (KDE) or Kubuntu 10.04. Some have solved this issue by increasing RAM voltage to 1.7v for this as well. This BIOS update is a more appropriate solution.
ASUS P7H55M-Pro Downloads
There is a way to install Fedora 12 on a computer that uses an Intel High Definition Video card. This applies to most i5 and i7 processors using the integrated Intel HD video. If you have a PCI express video card or an AMD processor, this does not apply.
Book mark this page in case you need to reverse the procedure.
You will need the full install Fedora 12 DVD. I use the x64 version, the 32bit version works as well. LiveCD or LiveDVD or LiveUSB will not work.
1. Boot the system using the Fedora 12 installation DVD.
2. When prompted select the “install system with basic video driver” installation method.
3. Proceed and install as usual.
5. Update all packages with yum. Be sure that the xorg-x11-drv-intel package is installed or install it.
6. Reboot again.
7. Open xorg.conf with your favorite editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf and modify the line that indicates “vesa” to “intel”.
8.. Save xorg.conf.
9. Open menu.lst with your favorite editor /boot/grub/menu.lst Create a new stanza based on the top stanza without the “nomodeset” option. The nomodeset is typically set on the same line as the kernel information.
10. Save menu.lst
You should now have the full benefit of the Intel HD Video driver for your Fedora 12 system. You may want to add compiz and mesa libraries as an enhancement.
If this workaround does not work, add “vesa” back to xorg.conf and use the “nomodeset” switch in the menu.lst file.